Socrates' Story on Reincarnation
September 28, 2015
The Story of Er
Socrates
I will tell you of the heroic tale of Er the son of Armenius, a Pamphylian by birth.
He was slain in battle. Ten days later when the bodies of the dead are decomposing, his body was found unaffected by decay. It was carried home to be buried.
On the 12th day, as he was lying on the funeral pile, he returned to life and told them what he had seen in the other world.
He said that when his soul left the body, he went on a journey with a great company. They came to a mysterious place where there were two openings in the earth, near together. Above them were two other openings in the heaven above.
In the intermediate space, there were judges seated. After they had given judgment on them and had bound their sentences in front of them:
## The Tyrant in the Afterlife
- the just were to ascend by the heavenly way on the upper right side,
- the unjust were bidden by them to descend by the lower way on the lower left side.
- On the right side, he saw the souls departing for heaven when sentence had been given on them, or going to earth.
- On the left side, at the two other openings, he saw other souls:
- some ascending out of the earth dusty and worn with travel, as if coming from a long journey
- some descending out of heaven clean and bright. These went forth with gladness into the meadow, where they encamped as at a festival. Those who knew one another embraced and conversed.
- The souls which came from earth curiously asked about the things above.
- The souls which came from heaven asked about the things beneath.
- Those from below were weeping at the things which they had endured in their journey beneath the earth which lasted 1,000 years.
- While those from above were describing heavenly delights and beauty.
- 100 years was reckoned to be the length of man's life.
- The penalty being thus paid 10 times in 1,000 years.
- being the cause of many deaths,
- betraying or enslaving cities or armies, or
- being guilty of any other evil behaviour.
Socrates
Ardiaeus lived 1,000 years before the time of Er.
- He had been the tyrant of a city of Pamphylia.
- He had murdered his aged father and his elder brother.
### The Eight Chakras
Socrates
From these ends extends the spindle of Necessity, on which all the revolutions turn.
The shaft and hook of this spindle are made of steel.
The whorl is made partly of steel and also partly of other materials.
- It has one large hollow whorl which is scooped out.
- Into this is fitted another smaller one, and another, and another, and four others, making eight in all, like vessels which fit into one another.

Socrates
The whole spindle has the same motion. But, as the whole revolves in one direction, the seven inner circles move slowly in the other. In terms of speed, their rankings are:
| Speed Rank | Whorl |
| +++ | +++ |
| 1 | Whorl 8 |
| 2 | Whorl 7, 6, and 5 move together |
| 3 | Whorl 4, which appears to move in a reverse motion |
| 4 | Whorl 3 |
| 5 | Whorl 2 |
> *Translator's Note= The image interprets the whorls as chakras and the spindle as the anthakarana which binds the chakras to physical reality. The key is Socrates' description of the fourth whorl as having a reddish color which matches the Hindu description of the navel or third chakra as having a red color. The top chakra is also known to have the highest frequency and accordingly has the fastest speed according to Socrates. The lower chakras (Whorl 2, 3, and 4) are known to act opposite to the higher chakras. Socrates describes this as those latter whorls having a reverse motion. In yoga, each chakra has a specific sound, which is described below.
On the upper surface of each circle is a siren, who goes round with them, hymning a single tone or note.
Socrates
The spindle turns on the knees of Cause and Effect.
The eight together form one harmony. Round about, at equal intervals, there are the three daughters of Cause and Effect called Fates sitting on their thrones as Lachesis, Clotho, and Atropos.
They wear white robes and have chaplets upon their heads. They accompany with their voices the harmony of the sirens.
> **Translator's Note= The mind categorizes cause & effect in three phases= past, present, and future. The lower chakras (outer whorls to Socrates) are concerned with the present, while the higher chakras (inner whorls) are concerned with the future.
When Er and the spirits arrived, their duty was to go at once to Lachesis.
- Lachesis sings of the past. Lachesis laying hold of either in turn, first with one hand and then with the other.
- Clotho sings of the present. Clotho from time to time assists with a touch of her right hand the revolution of the outer circle of the whorl or spindle.
- Atropos sings the future. Atropos with her left hand touching and guiding the inner ones**.
Socrates
There was a prophet who arranged them in order. Then he took from the knees of Lachesis lots and samples of lives.
He went to a high pulpit and spoke=
He then scattered lots indifferently among them all. Each of them took up the lot which fell near him except Er himself (he was not allowed).
Each took his lot and saw his number. Then, the Interpreter placed on the ground before them the samples of lives.
Hear the word of Lachesis, the daughter of Cause and Effect. Mortal souls, behold a new cycle of life and mortality.
Your genius will not be allotted to you, but you will choose your genius. Let him who draws the first lot have the first choice, and the life which he chooses shall be his destiny.
Virtue is free. A man will have more virtue the more he honours it. The responsibility is with the chooser.
- There were many more lives than the souls present, and they were of all sorts.
- There were lives of every animal and of man in every condition.
- There were tyrannies among them, some lasting out the tyrant's life, others which broke off in the middle and came to an end in poverty and exile and beggary.
- There were lives of famous men, some who were famous for their beauty, strength, and success in games. Some were famous for their birth and the qualities of their ancestors. Some were infamous, for the opposite qualities.
- There were also women's lives. But there was no definite character in them, because the soul, when choosing a new life, must of necessity become different.
- There were other qualities all mingled with one another. Elements of wealth mingled with poverty. Disease mingled with health.
- There were mean states also.
- what the effect of beauty is when combined with poverty or wealth in a particular soul,
- what are the good and evil consequences of:
- noble and humble birth,
- private and public station,
- strength and weakness,
- cleverness and dullness, and
- all the natural and acquired gifts of the soul, and
- the operation of them when conjoined.
- "evil" to the life which will make souls more unjust, and
- good to the life which will make souls more just.
Even for the last comer, if he chooses wisely and will live diligently, there is appointed a happy and not undesirable existence.
The first chooser should not be careless. The last chooser should not despair.
The first chooser came forward and chose the greatest tyranny.
The first chooser should not be careless. The last chooser should not despair.
- His mind had been darkened by folly and sensuality.
- He had not thought out the whole matter before he chose.
- He did not at first sight perceive that he was fated, among other evils, to devour his own children.
- But when he had time to reflect and saw what was in the lot, he began to beat his breast and lament over his choice, forgetting the prophet's proclamation.
- For, instead of throwing the blame of his misfortune on himself, he accused chance and the gods, and everything rather than himself.
- He was one of those who came from heaven.
- In a former life, he had dwelt in a well-ordered State.
- But his virtue was a matter of habit only, and he had no philosophy.
- had always dedicated himself to sound philosophy and
- had been moderately fortunate in the number of the lot .
Most curious was the spectacle—sad, laughable, and strange.
Socrates
The choice of the souls was in most cases based on their experience of a previous life. He saw:
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- the soul who had once been Orpheus choosing the life of a swan because of his enmity to women. He hated to be born of a woman because they had been his murderers.
- the soul of Thamyras choosing the life of a nightingale. Like swan and other musicians, it is a bird that wants to be male.
- Ajax, the son of Telamon, obtaining the 20th lot and choosing the life of a lion. He remembered the injustice which was done him in the judgment about the arms.
- Agamemnon taking the life of an eagle because, like Ajax, he hated human nature by reason of his sufferings.
- Atalanta choosing to the great fame of an athlete and was unable to resist the temptation.
- the soul of Epeus, the son of Panopeus, choosing the nature of a woman cunning in the arts
- the soul of the jester Thersites was putting on the form of a monkey
- lastly, the soul of Odysseus who remembered his former toils which then disenchanted him of ambition. And so he spent a considerable time searching the life of a private man who had no cares. He had some difficulty in finding this, which was lying around neglected by everybody else. When he saw it, he said that he would have done the same had his lot been first instead of last, and that he was delighted to have it.
- the guardian of their lives and
- the fulfiller of the choice.